I feel AZM's poems kinda exploring women. I've read Ian's criticization, from it I get to know AZM walks on the SUFI's path that explores beauty so he needs to train his soul by writing poems about beauty, to be specific women(Woman as an beauty object). Do U like the way he writes a poem?why?
new sufism is like a way that refers to islam. It contains some meditations to train our heart to get closer to God. In a way, it contains mysticism, so when we look at AZM's works; we can see that he puts deeper meaning in the words that reflect his path to reach God's love...
I've read Ian's essay about Acep Zamzam Noor (AZN)'s poetry. In that essay Ian explained that AZN is a new generation of poet in Indonesian Literature that rised in 1980s. He noted from the account of Harry Aveling, the Australian Acdmc, that AZN's poetry is known as "New Sufism."
just visited the blog... well, guys express the thought! i am the one from linguistics class... being told that this is for literature class.. am i invited to this blog? if not, um...let me invite my self hahahaha considering that i belong to non dik a hehehe (you think it's justification?) well, yes it is.. hehehe
Sinta Dien Wulandari-0608222 here I’d like to share recent movie that I have seen is “Asmara Dua Diana”, this movie is acted by Jamie Aditya, Luna Maya and Aura Kasih which stories about an entrepreneur named Asmara who is played by Jamie Aditya has made pregnant two women with same name Diana, First Diana is played by Luna Maya and Second Diana is played by Aura Kasih and the conflict came when Asmara can not share his time to take the two Diana into same maternity hospital. But I’m not going to talk about the whole story on that, there are two things that I’d like to criticize. First is about the theme of the movie and second I’m interested in Aura Kasih who is seen in this movie as an icon a sexy girl bring about to her career and the image adheres in her true life. First, the theme of this story is about a husband who has affair with other woman and makes her pregnant. The theme like this is good to sell in Indonesian market, Indonesian people like movie in easy story, moreover movie with love themes. But I’d like to comment that it’s a pity that children under 17 years have allowed to watch this adult movie, if we see this aspect it such uneducated watch for them, they haven’t enough understand and we should avoid and make exact rule of age category who allowed watch the movie. Among this uncertainty, I think movie industries have to bring educated theme, a theme that train people to think critical, make them smart and build people moral. So, from now I think we should become critical audience, try to choose movie with a good theme. Second, if we see Aura kasih is a newcomer actress in Indonesian movie; she is also a new singer who just released her first album with her controversy video clip on her song entitled ‘Mari Bercinta’ (let’s be in love). In her first coming in entertain world she makes the sexy icon on her, with her appearance, the way she dresses, the way she sings those are giving people perception that she is sexy woman. In my opinion it might be director consideration of film Asmara Dua Diana choose her as Diana who has character as sexy and a tempter woman. it is successfully bring that image in her life and career, after that movie released many gossip come dedicated to her, such as her gossip that she has relationship with Ariel-Peterpan (a famous group band singer in Indonesia) who is also gossiped has relationship with Luna Maya. Whether it is true or not, but Indonesian people like it, they are more interested looking actress life, their life privacy than the achievement of the actress it self. And I think Aura Kasih has successfully made the sexy icon adheres into her career and her real life.
the title is WAYS TO LIVE FOREVER setelah aku pergi by: Sally Nicholls
this book tells us about Sam , 11 years old , who had leukemia and has no much time to live . one day , he decided to write a book before he dies ... a book that contains lists of questions, such as: 1. how do we know that we already dead ? (bagaimana kita tahu kita sudah mati) 2. why God made children sick ? (kenapa Tuhan membuat anak-anak jatuh sakit) 3. if there is someone who not really dead , but people think that he is already dead , what happened ? Is he going to burried alive ? (bagaimana kalau ada orang yang sebenarnya belum mati , tapi dikira sudah mati oleh orang-orang lain ? apakah dia akan dikubur hidup-hidup ?) 4. Is it hurt when we died ? (sakitkah kalau mati ?) , etc .
also , this book contains story of Sam's life , pictures , and facts that he collected for weeks ..
this book is interesting , because we can see how strong Sam in facing his death and we cannot ignored the fact that he's still a boy and innocent .. through his questions , we can sense his innocence in asking such as simple questions but nobody can answer it ,,
afterall , he died peacefully with his family around .
you have to read it , guys .. Enjoy !
PS: So sorry for all my mistakes in spelling and grammar .
hey come on, let's talk something,study something and stay in one topic for a while. Do not make new topic unless we have finished with the topic posted before
ohhhhh thanks god , finally I can join this "blog", first of all I would like to say thank you to my lord, Allah SWT the most merciful and gracious, that's all thanks ,....hahahahah
AZN literary works tell about the beauty which created by God in many form and manifestation. Although many (or all of his literary works?) describing the beauty of women and nature, but it reflect God's sense of beautiful. If we read the poem "Becoming a Poet Again" for the first time, we can say that AZN was left by a hooker after doing they "business". But if we read it again and again, in my opinion, we can see that the poem tells about the weakness of human. Human weaknesses are also the God's give to us, as a part of His grand design, so we, should remember that WE ARE just HUMAN, not angel nor devil. We can make a mistakes in our life, or we can do something good. All of our action is the reflections of God's sense of beauty.
Responding Bram's account, it is not a big deal if a religious man (sufist) as Acep Zamzam Noor writes a poem with women beauty theme. it's a kinda expression from an artist who is free using anything as an object for his/her works. even if he has so much erotic words in his poems, it's okay. This is what artists do! Everything could become their object as long as it has an art value.
Every creature in the world have a power to be expressed, moreover when it comes to woman as an object, Acep said that woman is a beautiful creature, many things you can explore about her. your words seem to have their power when you are expressing her beauty. even so, you can give your expression erotically as long as your writing represent your feeling at the time and how the way you convey your writing
I think Acep has sufist tendencies in numbers of his poems. in the fist time i read his poem, he seems use erotic dictions but actually he uses the beauty of women to represent the beauty of God.. very unique...
These days I have been so obsessed to reading English novels. It just occurred to me when I updated the boxes in facebook that required what my favorite books are; then I just realized I have read less books. Well, I guess it will not be that late to start it all over again and begin to read again. Well, I just finished reading Everything’s Eventual by Stephen King; it is his collection of his 14 short stories. He is one of my favorite actually. Everything’s Eventual contains with 14 dark stories. I like “Riding the Bullet” and “L.T.’s Theory of Pets” those two are really Goosebumps-maker. But generally, I recommend this book for you who enjoy to be frightened by the story of mystery. And one more information, one of the stories in this book had been adapted to a movie entitled “1408” acted by John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson. And by the way I have been also in a progress in reading The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown, too late I guess to read this but better be late than never, isn’t it right? Ha ha. And so with starting to read, there is not term of lateness to begin. So people let’s read!
Belum ada yang nge-post topic ya... kalau ada yang berminat masuknya ke sign in, I've tried but unfortunately I have no topic to discuss. have you got account in gmail?tampaknya akan lebih mudah kalau kalian pada punya account di gmail. selamat mencoba he..he
hi! i'm safrina, wondering whether this is the blog you created for literary criticism? well, anyway i'm a bit gaptek with this blog world but it seems that you need a topic to discuss and make sure that all class members take part. how can we make sure of that? it's always better to use english for the sake of exercising...tapi gimana ya...writing is different from speaking, ya? there's hard evidence that your confidence do not correlate to your speaking skill. i don't know to discourage you from writing in english but there should be ways to make you aware and more cautious about your language use. i'm worried that i might discourage you from writing. well...keep up the good work.
AZN literary works tell about the beauty which created by God in many form and manifestation. Although many (or all of his literary works?) describing the beauty of women and nature, but it reflect God's sense of beautiful. If we read the poem "Becoming a Poet Again" for the first time, we can say that AZN was left by [a hooker] -WHERE DOES THIS IDEA COME FROM?- after doing [they "business"]- SAME THING. But if we read it again and again, in my opinion, we can see that the poem tells about the weakness of human. Human weaknesses are also the God's give to us, as a part of His grand design, so we, should remember that WE ARE just HUMAN, not angel nor devil. We can make a mistakes in our life, or we can do something good. All of our action is the reflections of God's sense of beauty.
interesting... especially the parts with "hooker" and "business". coba asumsinya uji-sendiri kenapa langsung berpikiran bahwa perempuannya "hooker"??? suspend your judgment, test your assumptions, read your society as contexts. coba yang lain turut fikirkan kenapa asumsi hooker dan business itu begitu mudah muncuk sebagai label... kenapa ya?
I feel AZM's poems kinda exploring women. I've read Ian's criticization, from it I get to know AZM walks on the SUFI's path that explores beauty so he needs to train his soul by writing poems about beauty, to be specific women(Woman as an beauty object). Do U like the way he writes a poem?why?
BalasHapusactually i really don't know about the term of "new sufism" that has been explained by campbell in his paper. could u help me guys??????????????
BalasHapusanyway what's the topic?????????
BalasHapusdo you mind if i make a new topic??????
the 81st annual Academy awards will be held on Sunday ,February 22nd 2009.
you better watch guys.....
i bet kate winslet will win for the category "actress in leading a role"
becoz she won 2 golden globe awards last month...
how about you guys????
sepi euyyy
BalasHapusnew sufism is like a way that refers to islam. It contains some meditations to train our heart to get closer to God. In a way, it contains mysticism, so when we look at AZM's works; we can see that he puts deeper meaning in the words that reflect his path to reach God's love...
BalasHapusI've read Ian's essay about Acep Zamzam Noor (AZN)'s poetry. In that essay Ian explained that AZN is a new generation of poet in Indonesian Literature that rised in 1980s. He noted from the account of Harry Aveling, the Australian Acdmc, that AZN's poetry is known as "New Sufism."
BalasHapussee you next time guys!!!!!!!!!!!!
BalasHapusjust visited the blog...
BalasHapuswell, guys express the thought!
i am the one from linguistics class... being told that this is for literature class..
am i invited to this blog?
if not, um...let me invite my self hahahaha
considering that i belong to non dik a hehehe (you think it's justification?) well, yes it is.. hehehe
guys.........
BalasHapusthe another topic please.........
how about movie????
twilight maybe,
which one is better the movie or the novel?
Sinta Dien Wulandari-0608222
BalasHapushere I’d like to share recent movie that I have seen is “Asmara Dua Diana”, this movie is acted by Jamie Aditya, Luna Maya and Aura Kasih which stories about an entrepreneur named Asmara who is played by Jamie Aditya has made pregnant two women with same name Diana, First Diana is played by Luna Maya and Second Diana is played by Aura Kasih and the conflict came when Asmara can not share his time to take the two Diana into same maternity hospital. But I’m not going to talk about the whole story on that, there are two things that I’d like to criticize. First is about the theme of the movie and second I’m interested in Aura Kasih who is seen in this movie as an icon a sexy girl bring about to her career and the image adheres in her true life.
First, the theme of this story is about a husband who has affair with other woman and makes her pregnant. The theme like this is good to sell in Indonesian market, Indonesian people like movie in easy story, moreover movie with love themes. But I’d like to comment that it’s a pity that children under 17 years have allowed to watch this adult movie, if we see this aspect it such uneducated watch for them, they haven’t enough understand and we should avoid and make exact rule of age category who allowed watch the movie. Among this uncertainty, I think movie industries have to bring educated theme, a theme that train people to think critical, make them smart and build people moral. So, from now I think we should become critical audience, try to choose movie with a good theme.
Second, if we see Aura kasih is a newcomer actress in Indonesian movie; she is also a new singer who just released her first album with her controversy video clip on her song entitled ‘Mari Bercinta’ (let’s be in love). In her first coming in entertain world she makes the sexy icon on her, with her appearance, the way she dresses, the way she sings those are giving people perception that she is sexy woman. In my opinion it might be director consideration of film Asmara Dua Diana choose her as Diana who has character as sexy and a tempter woman. it is successfully bring that image in her life and career, after that movie released many gossip come dedicated to her, such as her gossip that she has relationship with Ariel-Peterpan (a famous group band singer in Indonesia) who is also gossiped has relationship with Luna Maya. Whether it is true or not, but Indonesian people like it, they are more interested looking actress life, their life privacy than the achievement of the actress it self. And I think Aura Kasih has successfully made the sexy icon adheres into her career and her real life.
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BalasHapusguys , this is the book i recently read ..
the title is
WAYS TO LIVE FOREVER setelah aku pergi
by: Sally Nicholls
this book tells us about Sam , 11 years old , who had leukemia and has no much time to live .
one day , he decided to write a book before he dies ...
a book that contains lists of questions, such as:
1. how do we know that we already dead ? (bagaimana kita tahu kita sudah mati)
2. why God made children sick ? (kenapa Tuhan membuat anak-anak jatuh sakit)
3. if there is someone who not really dead , but people think that he is already dead , what happened ? Is he going to burried alive ? (bagaimana kalau ada orang yang sebenarnya belum mati , tapi dikira sudah mati oleh orang-orang lain ? apakah dia akan dikubur hidup-hidup ?)
4. Is it hurt when we died ? (sakitkah kalau mati ?) , etc .
also , this book contains story of Sam's life , pictures , and facts that he collected for weeks ..
this book is interesting , because we can see how strong Sam in facing his death and we cannot ignored the fact that he's still a boy and innocent ..
through his questions , we can sense his innocence in asking such as simple questions but nobody can answer it ,,
afterall , he died peacefully with his family around .
you have to read it , guys ..
Enjoy !
PS: So sorry for all my mistakes in spelling and grammar .
cheers ^^
indonesian az lah biar gampang...
BalasHapusHhahahaha
menurut saya ya,film asmara dua diana mah representasi dari kehidupan asli dua pemerannya,,,
BalasHapusaura kasih ma luna saling ngerebutin ariel...
Mrs. Nicke said we have to use english language.
BalasHapuscongratulation for kate winslet
BalasHapusfor winning actress in leading a role in Academy awards 2009.
She won the oscar for her latest movie, The Reader.
HERE WE ARE THE WINNERS OF 81ST Academy Awards:
BEST PICTURE
“Slumdog Millionaire”
BEST ACTRESS
Kate Winslet, “The Reader”
BEST ACTOR
Sean Penn, “Milk”
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Penelope Cruz, “Vicky Cristina Barcelona”
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Heath Ledger, “The Dark Knight”
BEST DIRECTOR
Danny Boyle, “Slumdog Millionaire”
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Dustin Lance Black, “Milk”
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Simon Beaufoy, “Slumdog Millionaire”
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
“Departures” (Japan)
BEST ANIMATED FILM
“WALL-E”
BEST ART DIRECTION
“The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button”
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
“Slumdog Millionaire,” Anthony Dod Mantle
BEST FILM EDITING
“Slumdog Millionaire,” Chris Dickens
BEST COSTUME DESIGN
“The Duchess,” Michael O’Conner
BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
“Man on Wire”
BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Slumdog Millionaire,” “Jai Ho”
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
“Slumdog Millionaire,” A.R. Rahman
BEST MAKEUP
“The Curious Case of Benjamin Button,”
BEST SOUND EDITING
“The Dark Knight”
BEST SOUND MIXING
“Slumdog Millionaire”
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
“The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
In my opinion Slumdog is just like the other bollywood movies, for example there are some songs and dances and many crying scenes.
Whats the special?
Maybe Hollywood seldom watches Bollywood movie like that.
hey come on, let's talk something,study something and stay in one topic for a while. Do not make new topic unless we have finished with the topic posted before
BalasHapusohhhhh thanks god , finally I can join this "blog", first of all I would like to say thank you to my lord, Allah SWT the most merciful and gracious, that's all thanks ,....hahahahah
BalasHapusAZN literary works tell about the beauty which created by God in many form and manifestation. Although many (or all of his literary works?) describing the beauty of women and nature, but it reflect God's sense of beautiful. If we read the poem "Becoming a Poet Again" for the first time, we can say that AZN was left by a hooker after doing they "business". But if we read it again and again, in my opinion, we can see that the poem tells about the weakness of human. Human weaknesses are also the God's give to us, as a part of His grand design, so we, should remember that WE ARE just HUMAN, not angel nor devil. We can make a mistakes in our life, or we can do something good. All of our action is the reflections of God's sense of beauty.
BalasHapuswhere is the others???
BalasHapusResponding Bram's account, it is not a big deal if a religious man (sufist) as Acep Zamzam Noor writes a poem with women beauty theme. it's a kinda expression from an artist who is free using anything as an object for his/her works. even if he has so much erotic words in his poems, it's okay.
BalasHapusThis is what artists do! Everything could become their object as long as it has an art value.
Every creature in the world have a power to be expressed, moreover when it comes to woman as an object, Acep said that woman is a beautiful creature, many things you can explore about her. your words seem to have their power when you are expressing her beauty. even so, you can give your expression erotically as long as your writing represent your feeling at the time and how the way you convey your writing
BalasHapusI think Acep has sufist tendencies in numbers of his poems. in the fist time i read his poem, he seems use erotic dictions but actually he uses the beauty of women to represent the beauty of God..
BalasHapusvery unique...
These days I have been so obsessed to reading English novels. It just occurred to me when I updated the boxes in facebook that required what my favorite books are; then I just realized I have read less books. Well, I guess it will not be that late to start it all over again and begin to read again.
BalasHapusWell, I just finished reading Everything’s Eventual by Stephen King; it is his collection of his 14 short stories. He is one of my favorite actually. Everything’s Eventual contains with 14 dark stories. I like “Riding the Bullet” and “L.T.’s Theory of Pets” those two are really Goosebumps-maker. But generally, I recommend this book for you who enjoy to be frightened by the story of mystery. And one more information, one of the stories in this book had been adapted to a movie entitled “1408” acted by John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson. And by the way I have been also in a progress in reading The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown, too late I guess to read this but better be late than never, isn’t it right? Ha ha. And so with starting to read, there is not term of lateness to begin. So people let’s read!
guys, i guess that we misunderstood in using this blog..
BalasHapuswrite ur topic in the posting, and then the other can comment in the comment column.
here is my example, i'll write a new topic in the posting column, you guys comment on it...
Halo, kawan-kawan...
BalasHapusGw blum tahu aturannya, apakah komen di sini harus berbahasa inggrs?
Mohon konfirmasi!
Kahareup,mah, nungelola blog, teh, kudu digajih...
meh rada PROPESIONAL!
actually I am confuse about it
BalasHapusBelum ada yang nge-post topic ya...
BalasHapuskalau ada yang berminat masuknya ke sign in, I've tried but unfortunately I have no topic to discuss. have you got account in gmail?tampaknya akan lebih mudah kalau kalian pada punya account di gmail. selamat mencoba he..he
hi! i'm safrina, wondering whether this is the blog you created for literary criticism? well, anyway i'm a bit gaptek with this blog world but it seems that you need a topic to discuss and make sure that all class members take part. how can we make sure of that? it's always better to use english for the sake of exercising...tapi gimana ya...writing is different from speaking, ya? there's hard evidence that your confidence do not correlate to your speaking skill. i don't know to discourage you from writing in english but there should be ways to make you aware and more cautious about your language use. i'm worried that i might discourage you from writing. well...keep up the good work.
BalasHapusAZN literary works tell about the beauty which created by God in many form and manifestation. Although many (or all of his literary works?) describing the beauty of women and nature, but it reflect God's sense of beautiful. If we read the poem "Becoming a Poet Again" for the first time, we can say that AZN was left by [a hooker] -WHERE DOES THIS IDEA COME FROM?- after doing [they "business"]- SAME THING. But if we read it again and again, in my opinion, we can see that the poem tells about the weakness of human. Human weaknesses are also the God's give to us, as a part of His grand design, so we, should remember that WE ARE just HUMAN, not angel nor devil. We can make a mistakes in our life, or we can do something good. All of our action is the reflections of God's sense of beauty.
BalasHapusinteresting... especially the parts with "hooker" and "business". coba asumsinya uji-sendiri kenapa langsung berpikiran bahwa perempuannya "hooker"??? suspend your judgment, test your assumptions, read your society as contexts. coba yang lain turut fikirkan kenapa asumsi hooker dan business itu begitu mudah muncuk sebagai label... kenapa ya?